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	<title>Comments on: Kelly Clarkson Apologizes to Clive Davis&#8230;.</title>
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		<title>By: realmad</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/07/23/kelly-clarkson-apologizes-to-clive-davis/#comment-62424</link>
		<dc:creator>realmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

You basically supported what I said .. doesn't matter if they threw the demo away or not .. its basically being rejected. It was a direct quote from Kelly herself .. I'm pretty sure a popular PR site isn't going to make up quotes for legal reason/issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>You basically supported what I said .. doesn&#8217;t matter if they threw the demo away or not .. its basically being rejected. It was a direct quote from Kelly herself .. I&#8217;m pretty sure a popular PR site isn&#8217;t going to make up quotes for legal reason/issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/07/23/kelly-clarkson-apologizes-to-clive-davis/#comment-62334</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelly wasn't turned down by record labels, she was ignored. She sent out hundreds of demo CD's only to have many returned or thrown away. One that did call back, upon her meeting the record company, thought she was black. 

It's the same thing that happens to many unknown artists. Trying to get your foot in the door to a major label is next to impossible. If by chance you do, they want control and offer a shitty deal. Thank God for myspace, youtube and itunes! Artists are slowly getting back control of their music. 

A few other points about Kelly. Her album "My December" has sold 800,000 copies worldwide in 4 weeks without touring, little promo, the negative press of the Clive flap, the fired manager that booked her into arenas when she wanted to play smaller venues like she did last year. Failure? Not!

The song "Irvine" was recorded in her closet of her house. When presented to the producer, he loved it as is and put the original closet version on the album. My point here is Kelly can easily record another album very quickly if she wanted to (even in a closet lol). She's already getting material ready for the next album, a country rock blues album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly wasn&#8217;t turned down by record labels, she was ignored. She sent out hundreds of demo CD&#8217;s only to have many returned or thrown away. One that did call back, upon her meeting the record company, thought she was black. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing that happens to many unknown artists. Trying to get your foot in the door to a major label is next to impossible. If by chance you do, they want control and offer a shitty deal. Thank God for myspace, youtube and itunes! Artists are slowly getting back control of their music. </p>
<p>A few other points about Kelly. Her album &#8220;My December&#8221; has sold 800,000 copies worldwide in 4 weeks without touring, little promo, the negative press of the Clive flap, the fired manager that booked her into arenas when she wanted to play smaller venues like she did last year. Failure? Not!</p>
<p>The song &#8220;Irvine&#8221; was recorded in her closet of her house. When presented to the producer, he loved it as is and put the original closet version on the album. My point here is Kelly can easily record another album very quickly if she wanted to (even in a closet lol). She&#8217;s already getting material ready for the next album, a country rock blues album.</p>
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		<title>By: realmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>realmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Kelly Clarkson
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kelly Clarkson<br />
According to pop legend, Kelly Clarkson&#8217;s early attempts to launch her music career foundered when she was turned down by almost every US record label for &#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: realmad</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/07/23/kelly-clarkson-apologizes-to-clive-davis/#comment-62033</link>
		<dc:creator>realmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone turns down record deals and artists always are out there bragging out labels are looking at them .. who the hell cares? Go out there and play for your enjoyment .. there is no hope anymore .. if there is hope and $$ .. it will come to you if its good .. I hardly doubt Kelly Clarkson turned down 2 deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone turns down record deals and artists always are out there bragging out labels are looking at them .. who the hell cares? Go out there and play for your enjoyment .. there is no hope anymore .. if there is hope and $$ .. it will come to you if its good .. I hardly doubt Kelly Clarkson turned down 2 deals.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost posted a comment about how this was wasting my bandwidth!  Wait... DOH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost posted a comment about how this was wasting my bandwidth!  Wait&#8230; DOH!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/07/23/kelly-clarkson-apologizes-to-clive-davis/#comment-61885</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First thing, Kelly was signed up for Idol by one of her best friends, Jessica, after she lost everything in an apartment fire in LA. Before leaving LA, she was working 3 side jobs and was a demo singer for Gerry Goffin(ex-husband of Carole King). She turned down 2 record deals because "they would have completely pigeonholed me as a bubblegum act" She was looking for something better. Also remember, she had no idea what Idol was to become(it was new)she was just looking for exposure from record reps. The cool thing about Kelly after she won Idol,the first thing she bought was her friend Jessica a brand new Corvette.

What's funny to me is people view "My December" as a failure when in only 4 weeks it has passed 800,000 units worldwide! That's with no touring, limited promo,   and negative press about this Clive flap. 

From Ann Powers..."The idea that this music might have a great effect on a smaller audience or that it's a valuable step in the evolution of someone whose talent should make for many fine albums pales next to betting on Clarkson like a prized racehorse."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First thing, Kelly was signed up for Idol by one of her best friends, Jessica, after she lost everything in an apartment fire in LA. Before leaving LA, she was working 3 side jobs and was a demo singer for Gerry Goffin(ex-husband of Carole King). She turned down 2 record deals because &#8220;they would have completely pigeonholed me as a bubblegum act&#8221; She was looking for something better. Also remember, she had no idea what Idol was to become(it was new)she was just looking for exposure from record reps. The cool thing about Kelly after she won Idol,the first thing she bought was her friend Jessica a brand new Corvette.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny to me is people view &#8220;My December&#8221; as a failure when in only 4 weeks it has passed 800,000 units worldwide! That&#8217;s with no touring, limited promo,   and negative press about this Clive flap. </p>
<p>From Ann Powers&#8230;&#8221;The idea that this music might have a great effect on a smaller audience or that it&#8217;s a valuable step in the evolution of someone whose talent should make for many fine albums pales next to betting on Clarkson like a prized racehorse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/07/23/kelly-clarkson-apologizes-to-clive-davis/#comment-61829</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Kelly has enough money to do whatever she wants, and I do admire that she took a risk and decided to do something she whole-heartedly cared about.  My initial point, however, is that Kelly risked sacrificing a lot of legitimacy as an artist by going the American Idol route.  In many respects it was a great move;  she's a huge star with adoring fans, and she now has the financial stability to do, as Mark says, whatever she wants.  

What I think her current situation shows, though, is that her career path may have nurtured more star power than artistic.  Sure, she can do whatever she wants now, but is she really prepared to write and release a record of the magnitude that she, with her past commercial success, is expected?  I don't think she is.  Good for her for doing what she wants, but the type of record that is expected of her might be beyond her abilities.  If she gets criticized for not fulfilling the expectations of the public and her label, I have a difficult time sympathizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Kelly has enough money to do whatever she wants, and I do admire that she took a risk and decided to do something she whole-heartedly cared about.  My initial point, however, is that Kelly risked sacrificing a lot of legitimacy as an artist by going the American Idol route.  In many respects it was a great move;  she&#8217;s a huge star with adoring fans, and she now has the financial stability to do, as Mark says, whatever she wants.  </p>
<p>What I think her current situation shows, though, is that her career path may have nurtured more star power than artistic.  Sure, she can do whatever she wants now, but is she really prepared to write and release a record of the magnitude that she, with her past commercial success, is expected?  I don&#8217;t think she is.  Good for her for doing what she wants, but the type of record that is expected of her might be beyond her abilities.  If she gets criticized for not fulfilling the expectations of the public and her label, I have a difficult time sympathizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well jaded, by your thinking U2 should should just lay down and quit too...right? 

"The band's first break was winning £500 in a talent contest on St. Patrick's Day (March 17th,1978) in Limerick."

This girl is not karaoke, and she can rock!(and she wrote it) Like I said, don't judge her until after you see her live show...here's a taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo2D8LdlCc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well jaded, by your thinking U2 should should just lay down and quit too&#8230;right? </p>
<p>&#8220;The band&#8217;s first break was winning £500 in a talent contest on St. Patrick&#8217;s Day (March 17th,1978) in Limerick.&#8221;</p>
<p>This girl is not karaoke, and she can rock!(and she wrote it) Like I said, don&#8217;t judge her until after you see her live show&#8230;here&#8217;s a taste.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo2D8LdlCc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJo2D8LdlCc</a></p>
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		<title>By: jaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse nailed it.  Why people are being so sympathetic to someone who is now a millionaire off glorified karaoke is beyond me.  A real artist would have been playing clubs and not going on a talent show.   Kelly should just keep her beefs in the boardroom and be thankful for what she now has..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse nailed it.  Why people are being so sympathetic to someone who is now a millionaire off glorified karaoke is beyond me.  A real artist would have been playing clubs and not going on a talent show.   Kelly should just keep her beefs in the boardroom and be thankful for what she now has..</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Kelly Clarkson would never be anywhere if it weren’t for everyone else. In that sense, I find it difficult to feel bad for her when she puts out something on her own and it doesn’t match anything she previously released. John Mayer can do whatever the hell he wants now. Yes, he played the game and co-wrote his first single to appease Columbia, but when it came down to it, he actually had the talent to take his career and run with it. Kelly doesn’t. The only reason this record is selling at all is because of her old material."

Kelly has no talent??? lol Kelly shared ASCAP Songwriter of the Year honors with "Because of You" a song she wrote when she was 16. She's written 100's of songs.
http://www.ascap.com/press/2007/041907_popawards.html

"John Mayer can do whatever the hell he wants now."

So can Kelly, she became financially secure 2 years ago.(read the article in my first post) It's not about the money or fame, it's about the music and enjoying what she's doing. 

Another great talent that Kelly has is the
interpretation of other artists songs.
She always honors other songwriters and artists that she has a passion for at her live shows. Here's an example: she was asked to sing at the REact Now benefit for Katrina victims. She could sing any of her songs but no...she picked Ray LaMontagne's "Shelter" (which was the best performance for that benefit.) It was requested so much she added it to her show and gave Ray props (and in exchange, turned on many fans to Ray who then went out and bought his records) Check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt-tlgPXq4A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kelly Clarkson would never be anywhere if it weren’t for everyone else. In that sense, I find it difficult to feel bad for her when she puts out something on her own and it doesn’t match anything she previously released. John Mayer can do whatever the hell he wants now. Yes, he played the game and co-wrote his first single to appease Columbia, but when it came down to it, he actually had the talent to take his career and run with it. Kelly doesn’t. The only reason this record is selling at all is because of her old material.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kelly has no talent??? lol Kelly shared ASCAP Songwriter of the Year honors with &#8220;Because of You&#8221; a song she wrote when she was 16. She&#8217;s written 100&#8217;s of songs.<br />
<a href="http://www.ascap.com/press/2007/041907_popawards.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ascap.com/press/2007/041907_popawards.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;John Mayer can do whatever the hell he wants now.&#8221;</p>
<p>So can Kelly, she became financially secure 2 years ago.(read the article in my first post) It&#8217;s not about the money or fame, it&#8217;s about the music and enjoying what she&#8217;s doing. </p>
<p>Another great talent that Kelly has is the<br />
interpretation of other artists songs.<br />
She always honors other songwriters and artists that she has a passion for at her live shows. Here&#8217;s an example: she was asked to sing at the REact Now benefit for Katrina victims. She could sing any of her songs but no&#8230;she picked Ray LaMontagne&#8217;s &#8220;Shelter&#8221; (which was the best performance for that benefit.) It was requested so much she added it to her show and gave Ray props (and in exchange, turned on many fans to Ray who then went out and bought his records) Check it out here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt-tlgPXq4A" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt-tlgPXq4A</a></p>
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