Comments on: The Thieves Are Back — Songs at Stake on Myspace…. http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/ Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:02:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ray http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-99406 Ray Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:33:52 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-99406 It seems that people want free stuff and don't really care about the quality. A colleague and I have been talking about suggesting to our artists that they just give away the high-quality files of their new CDs and hope that it will pay off in greater exposure and interest in why they are giving away a high quality product. We'll see what happens. It seems that people want free stuff and don’t really care about the quality. A colleague and I have been talking about suggesting to our artists that they just give away the high-quality files of their new CDs and hope that it will pay off in greater exposure and interest in why they are giving away a high quality product. We’ll see what happens.

]]> By: Kings of A&R » 2007 » December » 04 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-99162 Kings of A&R » 2007 » December » 04 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:52:36 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-99162 [...] illegal myspace hack sites include http://myspacegrab.com/. KOAR tested the program and it successfully rips the track from myspace but the song quality sucks [...] [...] illegal myspace hack sites include http://myspacegrab.com/. KOAR tested the program and it successfully rips the track from myspace but the song quality sucks [...]

]]> By: annie http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72156 annie Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:22:40 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72156 Nobody goes on MySpace anymore. Give it a break. There'll be a new music site coming soon. Nobody goes on MySpace anymore. Give it a break. There’ll be a new music site coming soon.

]]> By: koar http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72120 koar Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:31:27 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72120 It’s that “Sue the pants out of them” attitude that’s ruining the business. KOAR: Lawsuits haven't ruined the business; piracy and mediocre artists have led to the blacker industry days. Focusing on selling music rather than making music has somewhat put a dent in the business.... That’s right, “Kings” you must be part of the old guard of the biz, desperately holding on to whatever you can. KOAR: Holding onto what? Who could this really hurt. Any band that is big enough, downloading one song will not make or break their career, KOAR: iPods are selling like hot cakes, I guess going into best buy and stealing some iPods won't hurt Apple's bottom line. A successful new paradigm is not THIEVERY. Holding on to the old way of thinking is what got the business into this mess. KOAR: what is the old way? what is the new way? You haven't defined OLD WAY or NEW WAY. Is your New way STEALING? according to your logic, any successful product is worth stealing, or it won't hurt the company's bottom line. In that case, go steal the NEW TOYOTA HYBRIDS... It’s that “Sue the pants out of them” attitude that’s ruining the business.

KOAR: Lawsuits haven’t ruined the business; piracy and mediocre artists have led to the blacker industry days. Focusing on selling music rather than making music has somewhat put a dent in the business….

That’s right, “Kings” you must be part of the old guard of the biz, desperately holding on to whatever you can.

KOAR: Holding onto what?

Who could this really hurt. Any band that is big enough, downloading one song will not make or break their career,

KOAR: iPods are selling like hot cakes, I guess going into best buy and stealing some iPods won’t hurt Apple’s bottom line. A successful new paradigm is not THIEVERY.

Holding on to the old way of thinking is what got the business into this mess.

KOAR: what is the old way? what is the new way? You haven’t defined OLD WAY or NEW WAY. Is your New way STEALING? according to your logic, any successful product is worth stealing, or it won’t hurt the company’s bottom line. In that case, go steal the NEW TOYOTA HYBRIDS…

]]> By: monte Burns http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72106 monte Burns Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:43:27 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-72106 It's that "Sue the pants out of them" attitude that's ruining the business. That's right, "Kings" you must be part of the old guard of the biz, desperately holding on to whatever you can. Who could this really hurt. Any band that is big enough, downloading one song will not make or break their career, and any band that's developing should be glad that there is so much passion that people want their music. They it just becomes figuring out how to find those fans and monetize their passion for the music. Holding on to the old way of thinking is what got the business into this mess. It’s that “Sue the pants out of them” attitude that’s ruining the business. That’s right, “Kings” you must be part of the old guard of the biz, desperately holding on to whatever you can.

Who could this really hurt. Any band that is big enough, downloading one song will not make or break their career, and any band that’s developing should be glad that there is so much passion that people want their music. They it just becomes figuring out how to find those fans and monetize their passion for the music.

Holding on to the old way of thinking is what got the business into this mess.

]]> By: Greg Daybreak http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71504 Greg Daybreak Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:31:53 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71504 We just put a two minute clip of a song up. The person gets the idea whether they like the song within 30 seconds anyway so we give em a taste and if they like it they will buy the CD or come to a show. We just put a two minute clip of a song up. The person gets the idea whether they like the song within 30 seconds anyway so we give em a taste and if they like it they will buy the CD or come to a show.

]]> By: AJ-KOAR http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71455 AJ-KOAR Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:26:09 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71455 Alex, I am glad you brought up adding flash players to sites. Gives me an opportunity for self-promotion..haha www.altsounds.com unlimited space for songs and videos with standalone players that can be added to MySpace, blogs, or anything else. Larry- I agree that stealing songs can't totally be stopped and I admire your optimism about it. The problem here isn't just giving songs away for free...the problem is that artists don't have a choice when they use MySpace. You're giving it away for free whether you want to or not. Maybe you don't take issue with it, but many others do. MySpace has every resource available and COULD protect the content of their users...and hopefully they will take steps in that direction. In the meantime, should artists continue to allow their material to be stolen, or should they select what they want to give away and what they don't? Alex, I am glad you brought up adding flash players to sites. Gives me an opportunity for self-promotion..haha

http://www.altsounds.com

unlimited space for songs and videos with standalone players that can be added to MySpace, blogs, or anything else.

Larry- I agree that stealing songs can’t totally be stopped and I admire your optimism about it. The problem here isn’t just giving songs away for free…the problem is that artists don’t have a choice when they use MySpace. You’re giving it away for free whether you want to or not. Maybe you don’t take issue with it, but many others do.

MySpace has every resource available and COULD protect the content of their users…and hopefully they will take steps in that direction. In the meantime, should artists continue to allow their material to be stolen, or should they select what they want to give away and what they don’t?

]]> By: alex http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71392 alex Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:24:18 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71392 MySpaceGrab.com is run by this guy. I urge every label on this planet to sue him! Registrant: Administrative Contact: Shaffer, Ben beninisrael@hotmail.com 27 Woodhill Crescent Kenton, HA30LU United Kingdom 2071936138 He also has a MySpace site: http://www.myspace.com/clarifywithben MySpaceGrab.com is run by this guy. I urge every label on this planet to sue him!
Registrant:

Administrative Contact:
Shaffer, Ben beninisrael@hotmail.com
27 Woodhill Crescent
Kenton, HA30LU
United Kingdom
2071936138

He also has a MySpace site: http://www.myspace.com/clarifywithben

]]> By: larry anderson http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71347 larry anderson Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:58:27 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71347 as an unsigned band myspace downloads is no different than handing out free cd samplers at shows.if we sell 100 songs and 100 songs are stolen...do we now have 200 fans ? any buisness has a "cost of doing buisness" is this ours ? maybe the next step is for bands NOT to spend so much on recordings. maybe just do scratch demo's and put them up. do we hope that the "thieves" (or new fans) do show up to shows, buy tickets and merch ? now i understand why labels want part of merch and tickets sales. times have changed...we better get use to this. as an unsigned band myspace downloads is no different than handing out free cd samplers at shows.if we sell 100 songs and 100 songs are stolen…do we now have 200 fans ? any buisness has a “cost of doing buisness” is this ours ? maybe the next step is for bands NOT to spend so much on recordings. maybe just do scratch demo’s and put them up. do we hope that the “thieves” (or new fans) do show up to shows, buy tickets and merch ? now i understand why labels want part of merch and tickets sales. times have changed…we better get use to this.

]]> By: alex http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71317 alex Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:24:29 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/08/29/the-thieves-are-back-songs-at-stake-on-myspace/#comment-71317 First off, bands can add flash music players or something similar to their myspace sites, to continue to stream music. Second, MySpace is owned by a GIANT corporate company. Why cant they come up with a secure streaming system? It blows my mind. First off, bands can add flash music players or something similar to their myspace sites, to continue to stream music.

Second, MySpace is owned by a GIANT corporate company. Why cant they come up with a secure streaming system? It blows my mind.

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