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	<title>Comments on: Radiohead Fans Who Pay for New Album Online Total 38% Worldwide</title>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/11/05/radiohead-fans-who-pay-for-new-album-online-total-38-worldwide/#comment-101841</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take my hat off to Radiohead, a great success. This is postmodern purchase power turned on it's head to create an impact of love or hate. Love for the marketing management, kept secret, then causing an official "leak" or hate for the fact they outsmarted the corporate fat cats. Either way this ideology is Punk.

Two fingers up to the industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take my hat off to Radiohead, a great success. This is postmodern purchase power turned on it&#8217;s head to create an impact of love or hate. Love for the marketing management, kept secret, then causing an official &#8220;leak&#8221; or hate for the fact they outsmarted the corporate fat cats. Either way this ideology is Punk.</p>
<p>Two fingers up to the industry!</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>listening station(s) in Comer, GA =/= every listening station in the US</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Freund</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/11/05/radiohead-fans-who-pay-for-new-album-online-total-38-worldwide/#comment-90894</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Freund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked listening stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked listening stations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/11/05/radiohead-fans-who-pay-for-new-album-online-total-38-worldwide/#comment-90886</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In practical terms it's no more about bands/artists than it is about Afghan poppy farmers. The types of drugs are more likened to genres of music. I think Bob's analogy works far better than Steve's. ("How many drugs are out there that a dealer is a makes a million a year?") A comparison of the Clive Davises of the world to Columbian drug lords works quite well, too. Just ask Kelly Clarkson how much she enjoys her time in the coca fields.

And I never felt comfortable using a listening station. It's hard for me to really engage with a red vested, pimple faced teenager restocking Beyonce CDs next to me. The fluorescent lights always put a big dent in the vibe, too. Who has the time for that, anyways? When I go to a store, I wanna grab what I need &#38; get out. The whole thing just never seamt to be very practical for discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In practical terms it&#8217;s no more about bands/artists than it is about Afghan poppy farmers. The types of drugs are more likened to genres of music. I think Bob&#8217;s analogy works far better than Steve&#8217;s. (&#8221;How many drugs are out there that a dealer is a makes a million a year?&#8221;) A comparison of the Clive Davises of the world to Columbian drug lords works quite well, too. Just ask Kelly Clarkson how much she enjoys her time in the coca fields.</p>
<p>And I never felt comfortable using a listening station. It&#8217;s hard for me to really engage with a red vested, pimple faced teenager restocking Beyonce CDs next to me. The fluorescent lights always put a big dent in the vibe, too. Who has the time for that, anyways? When I go to a store, I wanna grab what I need &amp; get out. The whole thing just never seamt to be very practical for discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: koar</title>
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		<dc:creator>koar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lefsetz: I'm sick and tired of the constant debate about Radiohead's business model.  It WASN'T a business model.  It was a one time stunt that is not the future of the music business and will only be replicated by fools.

Lefsetz: You take a test drive before you buy a car, don't you?  You go to the Apple Store and fiddle with a Mac before you order one.  What makes you think the same rules don't apply to music?  Music, when done right, isn't disposable.  The only stuff you don't try out before buying is shit that's cheap, that you instantly use up.  You don't care that much if you get ripped off.  You'll just never buy that product again.


Lefsetz: But music is different.  Music, when done right, hits you EMOTIONALLY!  It's not inert, it's made by people.  It's more than the sound.  There's a culture, that you may choose to bond with.  Yes, it's a choice, as opposed to what the major labels presently think.  You don't hammer your audience over the head, you INVITE them to partake.

Lefsetz: Does a drug dealer make you pay upfront?  No, a new customer always gets a taste free.  To see how fucking good the drug is.  The goal is to ADDICT the customer, so he'll keep on paying until he dies.  This is the way it used to be in the music business, in the sixties and seventies, when bands had CAREERS!

KOAR: Before music was free....you could preview albums before buying them. Has this dude heard of listening stations? Back in the day the warehouse would allow you to open any CD and check it out - same thing with Second Spin and Moby Disc (here in the valley) which went out of biz a few yrs ago (both locations are resturantes now).  Do you remember when retail stores started selling used CD's....dudes thought that was going to kill the industry. Used CD's that were either promo copies (even thought that was illegal to sell) or CD's that were sold back....but we all know that any good CD in the rack was a promo copy because who was selling back the new Dr. Dre "the chronic" ....nobody but some young industry fools who were stealing the CD's out the labels back door and selling them for $70 for a box lot to a middle man would go to the local indie store and then turn them around for $100.00 or so make the difference per box. And if you wanted to get risky - you would go straight to the retail store yourself and sell them and make $7 bucks per CD.  No artist royalties, no mechanicals, no publishing, no soundscan....straight black market right there in the middle of a natioanl chain.  Oh the good old days!!! 

KOAR: Also to compare drugs to music is retarded....first off it is about bands/artist not just music. How many drugs are out there that a dealer is a makes a million a year....crack, cocaine, weed, herion, extacy....maybe a two handfulls?  Now how many bands releasing music....thousands and thousands to the point you can't keep up when records are $10.00 - cuz of the supply and demand - the tables have turned.....to much supply not enough demand and a commondity that is free if you know someone who knows their way around a computer and has the time to jack it. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefsetz: I&#8217;m sick and tired of the constant debate about Radiohead&#8217;s business model.  It WASN&#8217;T a business model.  It was a one time stunt that is not the future of the music business and will only be replicated by fools.</p>
<p>Lefsetz: You take a test drive before you buy a car, don&#8217;t you?  You go to the Apple Store and fiddle with a Mac before you order one.  What makes you think the same rules don&#8217;t apply to music?  Music, when done right, isn&#8217;t disposable.  The only stuff you don&#8217;t try out before buying is shit that&#8217;s cheap, that you instantly use up.  You don&#8217;t care that much if you get ripped off.  You&#8217;ll just never buy that product again.</p>
<p>Lefsetz: But music is different.  Music, when done right, hits you EMOTIONALLY!  It&#8217;s not inert, it&#8217;s made by people.  It&#8217;s more than the sound.  There&#8217;s a culture, that you may choose to bond with.  Yes, it&#8217;s a choice, as opposed to what the major labels presently think.  You don&#8217;t hammer your audience over the head, you INVITE them to partake.</p>
<p>Lefsetz: Does a drug dealer make you pay upfront?  No, a new customer always gets a taste free.  To see how fucking good the drug is.  The goal is to ADDICT the customer, so he&#8217;ll keep on paying until he dies.  This is the way it used to be in the music business, in the sixties and seventies, when bands had CAREERS!</p>
<p>KOAR: Before music was free&#8230;.you could preview albums before buying them. Has this dude heard of listening stations? Back in the day the warehouse would allow you to open any CD and check it out - same thing with Second Spin and Moby Disc (here in the valley) which went out of biz a few yrs ago (both locations are resturantes now).  Do you remember when retail stores started selling used CD&#8217;s&#8230;.dudes thought that was going to kill the industry. Used CD&#8217;s that were either promo copies (even thought that was illegal to sell) or CD&#8217;s that were sold back&#8230;.but we all know that any good CD in the rack was a promo copy because who was selling back the new Dr. Dre &#8220;the chronic&#8221; &#8230;.nobody but some young industry fools who were stealing the CD&#8217;s out the labels back door and selling them for $70 for a box lot to a middle man would go to the local indie store and then turn them around for $100.00 or so make the difference per box. And if you wanted to get risky - you would go straight to the retail store yourself and sell them and make $7 bucks per CD.  No artist royalties, no mechanicals, no publishing, no soundscan&#8230;.straight black market right there in the middle of a natioanl chain.  Oh the good old days!!! </p>
<p>KOAR: Also to compare drugs to music is retarded&#8230;.first off it is about bands/artist not just music. How many drugs are out there that a dealer is a makes a million a year&#8230;.crack, cocaine, weed, herion, extacy&#8230;.maybe a two handfulls?  Now how many bands releasing music&#8230;.thousands and thousands to the point you can&#8217;t keep up when records are $10.00 - cuz of the supply and demand - the tables have turned&#8230;..to much supply not enough demand and a commondity that is free if you know someone who knows their way around a computer and has the time to jack it. </p>
<p>STEVE ROSS</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/11/05/radiohead-fans-who-pay-for-new-album-online-total-38-worldwide/#comment-90653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be as low as $2.7m. But even still, who makes that off of a digital pre-release?

The downloads would've happened regardless. They took the reigns &#38; made a boatload of cash off of those who were willing to pay. That's how you make a profit by selling music these days.

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2007/11/radiohead-fans-cheapskates.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be as low as $2.7m. But even still, who makes that off of a digital pre-release?</p>
<p>The downloads would&#8217;ve happened regardless. They took the reigns &amp; made a boatload of cash off of those who were willing to pay. That&#8217;s how you make a profit by selling music these days.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2007/11/radiohead-fans-cheapskates.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alleyinsider.com/2007/11/radiohead-fans-cheapskates.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$6 to 10 mil - is that accurate?  Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$6 to 10 mil - is that accurate?  Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: jalan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I doubt Radiohead is complaining.  They apparently ended up with $6-$10 million in revenue -- without having to pay a label a dime to 'recoup' costs.  I'm quite sure they are thrilled.

http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/10/estimates-radio.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I doubt Radiohead is complaining.  They apparently ended up with $6-$10 million in revenue &#8212; without having to pay a label a dime to &#8216;recoup&#8217; costs.  I&#8217;m quite sure they are thrilled.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/10/estimates-radio.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/10/estimates-radio.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Beau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging by how many people are downloading anyway, this seems like it was a pretty successful strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by how many people are downloading anyway, this seems like it was a pretty successful strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprising...hasn't internet piracy thus far proven how unwilling people are to pay for music.  It's crazy to me to think about how much time, money and energy goes into a song and then it's practically given away at 99 flippin cents...and these loser "fans" aren't even willing to pay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising&#8230;hasn&#8217;t internet piracy thus far proven how unwilling people are to pay for music.  It&#8217;s crazy to me to think about how much time, money and energy goes into a song and then it&#8217;s practically given away at 99 flippin cents&#8230;and these loser &#8220;fans&#8221; aren&#8217;t even willing to pay!</p>
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