Comments on: Josh Homme of Queens of The Stone Age Rants Off.. http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/ Welcome to Kings of A&R, the #1 music industry site in the world where fresh new faces get discovered Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:35:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jon Cole http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-101001 Jon Cole Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:30:15 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-101001 Josh makes the records. The labels sell the record & take their cut. That's the agreed upon system. I don't think Josh has much of a problem with that. It's everything else. It's where the cuts are coming, now that revenue isn't coming in. It's how things are handled. It's the fact that it isn't & hasn't been for a long time "music first," it's been "executive salaries first." Just because the "money men" have always had some degree of power doesn't even come close to justifying how out of hand it's gotten. Where do you get off insinuating that Josh should, out of gratitude, keep is mouth closed? It's not about 50%. It's not about "artist empowerment" or "the internet." It's about what happened to Trent Reznor in Australia. It's about how all the folks who are actually in touch have lost their jobs, the bands who generate the revenue lose their support, & the fans are struck with lawsuits while clueless Doug Morris keeps the same salary he's always had. Oh the labels are ungrateful, Tim. You can put a million dollars in their pockets & they'll drop you like a rock. You should ask everyone on the Firm, everyone on Nettwerk, & maybe Clap Your Hands Say Yeah about that perfect world. While you're at it, ask them what their personal relationship with the staff is like. How do you think artists view Terry McBride as opposed to Jimmy Iovine? Pride comes before the fall, Tim. And the labels are falling. Josh makes the records. The labels sell the record & take their cut. That’s the agreed upon system. I don’t think Josh has much of a problem with that. It’s everything else. It’s where the cuts are coming, now that revenue isn’t coming in. It’s how things are handled. It’s the fact that it isn’t & hasn’t been for a long time “music first,” it’s been “executive salaries first.” Just because the “money men” have always had some degree of power doesn’t even come close to justifying how out of hand it’s gotten.

Where do you get off insinuating that Josh should, out of gratitude, keep is mouth closed? It’s not about 50%. It’s not about “artist empowerment” or “the internet.” It’s about what happened to Trent Reznor in Australia. It’s about how all the folks who are actually in touch have lost their jobs, the bands who generate the revenue lose their support, & the fans are struck with lawsuits while clueless Doug Morris keeps the same salary he’s always had.

Oh the labels are ungrateful, Tim. You can put a million dollars in their pockets & they’ll drop you like a rock.

You should ask everyone on the Firm, everyone on Nettwerk, & maybe Clap Your Hands Say Yeah about that perfect world. While you’re at it, ask them what their personal relationship with the staff is like. How do you think artists view Terry McBride as opposed to Jimmy Iovine?

Pride comes before the fall, Tim. And the labels are falling.

]]> By: Tim http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100999 Tim Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:52:49 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100999 Jon, First of all, since the recording of music began the artist has always been at the mercy of the "money man". This is changing for sure, but artists are still limited if they don't have the $ to advertise and promote. Josh, knew the numbers (15% or whatever) when he signed on the dotted line. I'd like to see him try to distribute all the QOTSA records WORLDWIDE in a van. In a perfect world, yeah, the artist would get 50% of everything. We both know that world doesn't exist. The good news is there is an artist empowerment because of the web, and such. Josh has a head start because his involvement with labels, that's what I'm saying - for that he should be grateful. He's lucky he's established and not starting out right now with any of his bands, for that he should be grateful. I don't think the labels are ungrateful, but were very shortsighted, and running a business model that wasn't very "music first" and obviously wasn't sustainable through the changing times. Tim Jon, First of all, since the recording of music began the artist has always been at the mercy of the “money man”. This is changing for sure, but artists are still limited if they don’t have the $ to advertise and promote. Josh, knew the numbers (15% or whatever) when he signed on the dotted line. I’d like to see him try to distribute all the QOTSA records WORLDWIDE in a van.

In a perfect world, yeah, the artist would get 50% of everything. We both know that world doesn’t exist.

The good news is there is an artist empowerment because of the web, and such. Josh has a head start because his involvement with labels, that’s what I’m saying – for that he should be grateful. He’s lucky he’s established and not starting out right now with any of his bands, for that he should be grateful.

I don’t think the labels are ungrateful, but were very shortsighted, and running a business model that wasn’t very “music first” and obviously wasn’t sustainable through the changing times.

Tim

]]> By: brandon http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100985 brandon Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:40:16 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100985 jon cole is my hero. jon cole is my hero.

]]> By: Seeding Revolution « NuRev Blog http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100915 Seeding Revolution « NuRev Blog Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:35:07 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100915 [...] The first is an interview to Josh Homme from Queens of the stone age reported by Kings of A&R. [...] [...] The first is an interview to Josh Homme from Queens of the stone age reported by Kings of A&R. [...]

]]> By: Jon Cole http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100639 Jon Cole Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:16:38 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100639 Oh c'mon, Tim. Kyuss had a legendary record & a cult following. And I'd like to see the worldwide numbers for their debut. Interscope had PLENTY of reasons to believe in the band, not the least of which being that Josh fronts an undeniably kickass rock band. Have you even heard the records? Josh had already spent a decade in a van building a fan base. You act like Interscope just pucked some chumps off of the street. The labels should be grateful that a kickass rock band will to allow them to make money off of their songs. What's fucked up is that the labels grew to be bigger than the music. So big that they became a necessary evil. You couldn't compete on your own. And then the egos shot through the roof & now all of the sudden it's privilege to have some jackass in a Maseratti ship your "product" across the country. Fuck that. Josh should be grateful for what? That he was allowed to keep 15% of the loot his art generated? Give me a break. "I mean, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records takes a private jet or rides first class to tell a band they don’t get tour support. You know what I mean? Fuck that shit, I’m tired of it." The LABELS are the ones who seem ungrateful to me, Tim. Grow some balls. Oh c’mon, Tim. Kyuss had a legendary record & a cult following. And I’d like to see the worldwide numbers for their debut. Interscope had PLENTY of reasons to believe in the band, not the least of which being that Josh fronts an undeniably kickass rock band. Have you even heard the records? Josh had already spent a decade in a van building a fan base. You act like Interscope just pucked some chumps off of the street.

The labels should be grateful that a kickass rock band will to allow them to make money off of their songs. What’s fucked up is that the labels grew to be bigger than the music. So big that they became a necessary evil. You couldn’t compete on your own. And then the egos shot through the roof & now all of the sudden it’s privilege to have some jackass in a Maseratti ship your “product” across the country. Fuck that. Josh should be grateful for what? That he was allowed to keep 15% of the loot his art generated? Give me a break.

“I mean, Jimmy Iovine of Interscope Records takes a private jet or rides first class to tell a band they don’t get tour support. You know what I mean? Fuck that shit, I’m tired of it.”

The LABELS are the ones who seem ungrateful to me, Tim. Grow some balls.

]]> By: Dave http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100451 Dave Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:39:58 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100451 The fat joke was tasteless. The fat joke was tasteless.

]]> By: Keith Freund http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100132 Keith Freund Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:28:52 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100132 He probably didn't forget. He probably didn’t forget.

]]> By: Tim http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-100072 Tim Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:47:04 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-100072 Josh Homme seems fairly ungrateful. Where would his band be without ever being on a label. How about Josh giving back everything he's earned from being on a label? I doubt that would happen. Somebody at a label took a chance with his band and helped him get to the status where he is now. He must have forgot that part. Tim Josh Homme seems fairly ungrateful. Where would his band be without ever being on a label. How about Josh giving back everything he’s earned from being on a label? I doubt that would happen. Somebody at a label took a chance with his band and helped him get to the status where he is now. He must have forgot that part.

Tim

]]> By: Stu Gots http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-99789 Stu Gots Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:06:15 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-99789 Cool -- Capitol gets a few bucks in their coffers to buy booze for their holiday party and look like complete DOUCHEBAGS to the entire music-buying community. Smart thinking. If they don't take that money and donate it to charity (or at least buy some PSA's explaining why music should be paid for and not illegally downloaded), someone over there should be fired. Cool — Capitol gets a few bucks in their coffers to buy booze for their holiday party and look like complete DOUCHEBAGS to the entire music-buying community.

Smart thinking.

If they don’t take that money and donate it to charity (or at least buy some PSA’s explaining why music should be paid for and not illegally downloaded), someone over there should be fired.

]]> By: Scott http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/comment-page-1/#comment-99779 Scott Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:41:47 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/06/josh-homme-of-queens-of-the-stone-age-rants-off/#comment-99779 Homme's interview = Priceless. :) Homme’s interview = Priceless. :)

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