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		<title>By: AJ-KOAR</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101868</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ-KOAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"it’s with the assumption of some sites/critics/etc. that their personal tastes either do or should speak for the rest of the planet. It’s incredibly egocentric."

I agree with this. Attribute it to a lethal combination of every kid thinking they deserve to be a celebrity and the internet allowing them the opportunity. ANYONE can start a music website and have a blog, no matter how far up their own asses they may be. It has seriously hurt legitimate music journalism, which really wasn't all that great to begin with.

Take music sites with a grain of salt. You don't know who is writing that stuff. It's most likely some 16 year old indie snob who thinks 'alternate tunings' means you don't have to know how to tune a guitar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it’s with the assumption of some sites/critics/etc. that their personal tastes either do or should speak for the rest of the planet. It’s incredibly egocentric.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with this. Attribute it to a lethal combination of every kid thinking they deserve to be a celebrity and the internet allowing them the opportunity. ANYONE can start a music website and have a blog, no matter how far up their own asses they may be. It has seriously hurt legitimate music journalism, which really wasn&#8217;t all that great to begin with.</p>
<p>Take music sites with a grain of salt. You don&#8217;t know who is writing that stuff. It&#8217;s most likely some 16 year old indie snob who thinks &#8216;alternate tunings&#8217; means you don&#8217;t have to know how to tune a guitar.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"World class" is a thing of the past. Everyone's got their own little world now. I can say The Films are making the best music in the entire world right now. And to me they are. I'm not saying more people will enjoy the Films' music than they will Gwen Stefani's. Because that's my world, that's my niche... the Films, Mando Diao, Kings of Leon, the 22-20s, Black Rebel, the White Stripes... that's the kind of stuff that gets me off. (In terms of modern music, at least.) To me that's not hype, that's a testimonial, &#38; these testimonials will drive the new niche-based world of music. Yes, personal enjoyment &#38; musical quality are two very different things, but sometimes those collide, &#38; I think that justifies such a bold statement.

Hype is generated for the sake of profits. That's what Chuck D is chastising. Hype would be someone taking this writer's words (not Dean, necessarily), &#38; proliferating them out of context, repeating them as if they felt the words were true, when in fact they have some self-serving motivation behind it. (I don't think this is what Dean was trying to do.) Or hype would be making statements about a band that you don't believe to be true.

Chuck D wasn't saying "Don't believe someone's opinion unless it lines up with most of the world. Or at least one million other people."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;World class&#8221; is a thing of the past. Everyone&#8217;s got their own little world now. I can say The Films are making the best music in the entire world right now. And to me they are. I&#8217;m not saying more people will enjoy the Films&#8217; music than they will Gwen Stefani&#8217;s. Because that&#8217;s my world, that&#8217;s my niche&#8230; the Films, Mando Diao, Kings of Leon, the 22-20s, Black Rebel, the White Stripes&#8230; that&#8217;s the kind of stuff that gets me off. (In terms of modern music, at least.) To me that&#8217;s not hype, that&#8217;s a testimonial, &amp; these testimonials will drive the new niche-based world of music. Yes, personal enjoyment &amp; musical quality are two very different things, but sometimes those collide, &amp; I think that justifies such a bold statement.</p>
<p>Hype is generated for the sake of profits. That&#8217;s what Chuck D is chastising. Hype would be someone taking this writer&#8217;s words (not Dean, necessarily), &amp; proliferating them out of context, repeating them as if they felt the words were true, when in fact they have some self-serving motivation behind it. (I don&#8217;t think this is what Dean was trying to do.) Or hype would be making statements about a band that you don&#8217;t believe to be true.</p>
<p>Chuck D wasn&#8217;t saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t believe someone&#8217;s opinion unless it lines up with most of the world. Or at least one million other people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jalan</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101674</link>
		<dc:creator>jalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to belabor my point, but they may very well be “the most exciting and original band in the *BLIP POP* scene right now”, but again, that's very different than "the world" -- the Led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones of 'blip pop' are still unknown by about 98% of the globe. So in that sense, they are extraordinarily overhyped, at least by Loud &#38; Quiet and their followers.

My issue here isn't with the music (it's not my cup of tea, but good for you if you dig it), nor is it with AJ's philosophy to be the best 'you' you can be (which seems obvious, but is still overlooked by many bands) -- it's with the assumption of some sites/critics/etc. that their personal tastes either do or should speak for the rest of the planet.  It's incredibly egocentric.  Just my own personal beef with people who think they're god's gift, I guess.  

If they're truly a 'world class' band, time will prove them as such.  If not, time will prove Loud &#38; Quiet and similar 'style makers' to be ignorant, arrogant or both.  In the meantime, enjoy listening to what you like and in the words of Chuck D "don't believe the hype".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to belabor my point, but they may very well be “the most exciting and original band in the *BLIP POP* scene right now”, but again, that&#8217;s very different than &#8220;the world&#8221; &#8212; the Led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones of &#8216;blip pop&#8217; are still unknown by about 98% of the globe. So in that sense, they are extraordinarily overhyped, at least by Loud &amp; Quiet and their followers.</p>
<p>My issue here isn&#8217;t with the music (it&#8217;s not my cup of tea, but good for you if you dig it), nor is it with AJ&#8217;s philosophy to be the best &#8216;you&#8217; you can be (which seems obvious, but is still overlooked by many bands) &#8212; it&#8217;s with the assumption of some sites/critics/etc. that their personal tastes either do or should speak for the rest of the planet.  It&#8217;s incredibly egocentric.  Just my own personal beef with people who think they&#8217;re god&#8217;s gift, I guess.  </p>
<p>If they&#8217;re truly a &#8216;world class&#8217; band, time will prove them as such.  If not, time will prove Loud &amp; Quiet and similar &#8217;style makers&#8217; to be ignorant, arrogant or both.  In the meantime, enjoy listening to what you like and in the words of Chuck D &#8220;don&#8217;t believe the hype&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101671</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought "blip pop" (making electronic music with 8-bit video game samples) was a trend that got played out almost 2 years ago. This isn't a niche I'd put money on, but these guys have their shit together. Moreso than David Sugar &#38; the like, at least. I could see it being a really intense live show. And I could see them moving away from 8-bit sounds when the novelty wears off.

I don't think this band is overhyped because to people who like this style of music, I wouldn't be surprised if this really was the most exciting &#38; original band they're aware of. In this new niche-based market, statements like that no longer apply across the board. Like AJ said, do what you do, be the best at it, &#38; hope you can build a niche there. Trying to be mainstream is passe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;blip pop&#8221; (making electronic music with 8-bit video game samples) was a trend that got played out almost 2 years ago. This isn&#8217;t a niche I&#8217;d put money on, but these guys have their shit together. Moreso than David Sugar &amp; the like, at least. I could see it being a really intense live show. And I could see them moving away from 8-bit sounds when the novelty wears off.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this band is overhyped because to people who like this style of music, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if this really was the most exciting &amp; original band they&#8217;re aware of. In this new niche-based market, statements like that no longer apply across the board. Like AJ said, do what you do, be the best at it, &amp; hope you can build a niche there. Trying to be mainstream is passe.</p>
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		<title>By: Full Devil Jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101664</link>
		<dc:creator>Full Devil Jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!! I didn't know there was market for this crap...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!! I didn&#8217;t know there was market for this crap&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: jalan</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101661</link>
		<dc:creator>jalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude. Read my posts. I'm not being ridiculous and I'm not trying to make up anyone's mind for them. I said in my initial post:

"Everyone’s entitled to their opinion — music is mainly personal taste, after all — but I found it boring at best and annoying at worst."

My opinion. Nothing more.  

And we're not talking about "most known bands" here, as you suggested.  According to the 'experts' at Loud &#38; Quiet, we're talking about “the most exciting and original band in the world right now”.  A band of that genius and stature SHOULD be bigger than The Beatles and should SURPASS all those 'meaningless indicators' (and if sales numbers are meaningless, why does KOAR post them frequently?).  

All I'm saying is that it's a ridiculous, overblown quote and anyone who wants to defend it should be required to check back on the band in a few years and see how they're doing. Surely, “the most exciting and original band in the world right now” you would have to have a massive following (mainstream or cult) after five years on the scene, no?   

There's a VAST different between 'personal favorite' and 'greatest in the world'.  Those who don't undertand that shouldn't be broadcasting their opinions to the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude. Read my posts. I&#8217;m not being ridiculous and I&#8217;m not trying to make up anyone&#8217;s mind for them. I said in my initial post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone’s entitled to their opinion — music is mainly personal taste, after all — but I found it boring at best and annoying at worst.&#8221;</p>
<p>My opinion. Nothing more.  </p>
<p>And we&#8217;re not talking about &#8220;most known bands&#8221; here, as you suggested.  According to the &#8216;experts&#8217; at Loud &amp; Quiet, we&#8217;re talking about “the most exciting and original band in the world right now”.  A band of that genius and stature SHOULD be bigger than The Beatles and should SURPASS all those &#8216;meaningless indicators&#8217; (and if sales numbers are meaningless, why does KOAR post them frequently?).  </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that it&#8217;s a ridiculous, overblown quote and anyone who wants to defend it should be required to check back on the band in a few years and see how they&#8217;re doing. Surely, “the most exciting and original band in the world right now” you would have to have a massive following (mainstream or cult) after five years on the scene, no?   </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a VAST different between &#8216;personal favorite&#8217; and &#8216;greatest in the world&#8217;.  Those who don&#8217;t undertand that shouldn&#8217;t be broadcasting their opinions to the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ-KOAR</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101614</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ-KOAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jalan, don't be ridiculous. A band doesn't need to be bigger than the Beatles to be a rising star. They don't have to sell a million records independently before they can be considered an exciting band.

Don't get me wrong, I have also adopted the policy of being suspicious of anything Pitchfork endorses, but we're all grown up here; we can form our own opinions. Holding new artists to a standard of meaningless indicators most known bands couldn't meet does nothing more than make you miss out on opportunities. 

'Great' is not a genre. Artists are out to create different things should only be judged by how well they execute that vision. Have a trip hop jug band? I don't care...but be the best trip hop jug band that has ever been and ever will be. Master the jug and all its capabilities. Maybe they will offend your personal sense of structure and melody, but that doesn't automatically make it bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jalan, don&#8217;t be ridiculous. A band doesn&#8217;t need to be bigger than the Beatles to be a rising star. They don&#8217;t have to sell a million records independently before they can be considered an exciting band.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I have also adopted the policy of being suspicious of anything Pitchfork endorses, but we&#8217;re all grown up here; we can form our own opinions. Holding new artists to a standard of meaningless indicators most known bands couldn&#8217;t meet does nothing more than make you miss out on opportunities. </p>
<p>&#8216;Great&#8217; is not a genre. Artists are out to create different things should only be judged by how well they execute that vision. Have a trip hop jug band? I don&#8217;t care&#8230;but be the best trip hop jug band that has ever been and ever will be. Master the jug and all its capabilities. Maybe they will offend your personal sense of structure and melody, but that doesn&#8217;t automatically make it bad.</p>
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		<title>By: jalan</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101473</link>
		<dc:creator>jalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  I should have clarified my 'blip on the radar' comment by meaning making any kind of impression on the general public -- outside of the hipster circles.

Check back on them in another year, or better yet, five years.  If they're truly “the most exciting and original band in the world right now” they should have a HUGE following, mainstream or cult (ala Radiohead).  Otherwise, they're just another over-hyped band from a scene that seems to praise the stylish and eccentric over the truly talented.  Just my .02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  I should have clarified my &#8216;blip on the radar&#8217; comment by meaning making any kind of impression on the general public &#8212; outside of the hipster circles.</p>
<p>Check back on them in another year, or better yet, five years.  If they&#8217;re truly “the most exciting and original band in the world right now” they should have a HUGE following, mainstream or cult (ala Radiohead).  Otherwise, they&#8217;re just another over-hyped band from a scene that seems to praise the stylish and eccentric over the truly talented.  Just my .02.</p>
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		<title>By: Japanther</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101436</link>
		<dc:creator>Japanther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in love with Crystal Castles. 

To Jalan (the comment above me), they've already made a blip. They've sold out 3 big shows in London this month. I tried getting a ticket for one of the shows on ebay but they price got ridiculous. Also, Pitchfork has reports on Crystal Castles all the time, which is amazing for a band that's only released 2 vinyl singles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in love with Crystal Castles. </p>
<p>To Jalan (the comment above me), they&#8217;ve already made a blip. They&#8217;ve sold out 3 big shows in London this month. I tried getting a ticket for one of the shows on ebay but they price got ridiculous. Also, Pitchfork has reports on Crystal Castles all the time, which is amazing for a band that&#8217;s only released 2 vinyl singles.</p>
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		<title>By: jalan</title>
		<link>http://www.kingsofar.com/2007/12/11/koar-news-117/#comment-101434</link>
		<dc:creator>jalan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“the most exciting and original band in the world right now”  I'm sure they will have exactly the same career arc as every other band dubbed 'exciting and original' by pretentious hipster critics -- meaning they won't even make a blip on the radar and will disappear as quickly as they arrived.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion -- music is mainly personal taste, after all -- but I found it boring at best and annoying at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“the most exciting and original band in the world right now”  I&#8217;m sure they will have exactly the same career arc as every other band dubbed &#8216;exciting and original&#8217; by pretentious hipster critics &#8212; meaning they won&#8217;t even make a blip on the radar and will disappear as quickly as they arrived.</p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s entitled to their opinion &#8212; music is mainly personal taste, after all &#8212; but I found it boring at best and annoying at worst.</p>
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