Comments on: Raging Against the Machine, Amazon #2 Digital Retailer, Clear Channel Drama, and Where Are the Superstars? http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/ Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:33:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Beau Bretz http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127239 Beau Bretz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:06:58 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127239 * Sorry for the typos - I was in a rush to get my point of view across. Give it up for A.D.D. Beau * Sorry for the typos - I was in a rush to get my point of view across. Give it up for A.D.D.

Beau

]]> By: Beau Bretz http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127237 Beau Bretz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:01:35 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127237 As regarding to the last section of this days post - Great call on artists working with songwriters. I really don't understand what some musicians shame and fear of teaming up with songwriters is. The greatest artists of all time all had other great songwriters that they worked with. I personally just see it as a way to get the most possible perspectives on your idea. Here in Dallas, where we're based out of, there are at least 10 bands I can think of in our circle - where we all work ogether when we hit a dead in. Given - not all ten bands at one time are all in the same room, but for instance - if I'm in a dead spot on a section of a song - I think to myself - Who can I call that can give me the most perspective. Beau Rescue Signals As regarding to the last section of this days post - Great call on artists working with songwriters. I really don’t understand what some musicians shame and fear of teaming up with songwriters is. The greatest artists of all time all had other great songwriters that they worked with. I personally just see it as a way to get the most possible perspectives on your idea. Here in Dallas, where we’re based out of, there are at least 10 bands I can think of in our circle - where we all work ogether when we hit a dead in. Given - not all ten bands at one time are all in the same room, but for instance - if I’m in a dead spot on a section of a song - I think to myself - Who can I call that can give me the most perspective.

Beau
Rescue Signals

]]> By: Universal Indie Records http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127232 Universal Indie Records Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:34:43 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127232 "did we really think there would be no price to pay for tearing down the music industry by everyone stealing their music ?" The seeds of the music industry's destruction have been sown ever since it's inception. It just took a really long time for the karma to come back. Everything from ripping off artists to gouging consumers have come back to haunt them! “did we really think there would be no price to pay for tearing down the music industry by everyone stealing their music ?”

The seeds of the music industry’s destruction have been sown ever since it’s inception. It just took a really long time for the karma to come back.

Everything from ripping off artists to gouging consumers have come back to haunt them!

]]> By: Matt http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127228 Matt Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:57:08 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127228 What about Winehouse? What about Winehouse?

]]> By: Jon Cole http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127227 Jon Cole Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:51:26 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127227 "The problem is money, but it’s not that labels aren’t spending enough — it’s that they think they can create (ie: buy) raw talent." Perfectly said. I'm surprised the music industry has gotten by on "polishing turds" as long as it has. “The problem is money, but it’s not that labels aren’t spending enough — it’s that they think they can create (ie: buy) raw talent.”

Perfectly said. I’m surprised the music industry has gotten by on “polishing turds” as long as it has.

]]> By: liz http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127226 liz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:41:24 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127226 Music from new artists comes from inspiration. Who are young artists influenced by? Pete wentz? All these young bands play pop punk. Young bands a decade ago were influenced by vocalists with great voices with a keen sense of melody who wrote great lyrics concerning their life. Vocalists like kurt cobain, vedder, weiland, layne, axle rose, maynard. These lead singers held a lot of influence and kids wanted to emulate them. Now we have no true superstars. The singers today play some selected dates at warped tour and go back to mommy and daddys house. Its just different today! Music from new artists comes from inspiration. Who are young artists influenced by? Pete wentz?

All these young bands play pop punk. Young bands a decade ago were influenced by vocalists with great voices with a keen sense of melody who wrote great lyrics concerning their life. Vocalists like kurt cobain, vedder, weiland, layne, axle rose, maynard. These lead singers held a lot of influence and kids wanted to emulate them.

Now we have no true superstars. The singers today play some selected dates at warped tour and go back to mommy and daddys house. Its just different today!

]]> By: Jalan http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127224 Jalan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:13:04 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127224 I'll be the first to call 'bullsh!t' on barrym. The music industry dumps more money and spends more time than ever trying to 'break' minimally talented artists. Think of what most people would consider some the 'great' albums from back in the day -- Thriller, Joshua Tree, Appetite for Destruction (a fave of this blog) -- and consider how much money and time were put into creating and promoting (these days, 'hyping') those albums. And then compare that to the latest flop from Britney, Christina or whatever pop tart you chose. The problem is money, but it's not that labels aren't spending enough -- it's that they think they can create (ie: buy) raw talent. Not to mention, they don't understand what they're selling. They look at selling CDs as "moving units" (like soap or jeans). Music is art. Try scribbling on a canvas, putting it in a fancy frame and selling it to someone as the next Picasso -- good luck with that. I’ll be the first to call ‘bullsh!t’ on barrym. The music industry dumps more money and spends more time than ever trying to ‘break’ minimally talented artists.

Think of what most people would consider some the ‘great’ albums from back in the day — Thriller, Joshua Tree, Appetite for Destruction (a fave of this blog) — and consider how much money and time were put into creating and promoting (these days, ‘hyping’) those albums. And then compare that to the latest flop from Britney, Christina or whatever pop tart you chose.

The problem is money, but it’s not that labels aren’t spending enough — it’s that they think they can create (ie: buy) raw talent. Not to mention, they don’t understand what they’re selling. They look at selling CDs as “moving units” (like soap or jeans). Music is art. Try scribbling on a canvas, putting it in a fancy frame and selling it to someone as the next Picasso — good luck with that.

]]> By: barrym http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127200 barrym Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:34:45 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127200 did we really think there would be no price to pay for tearing down the music industry by everyone stealing their music ? the lack of new superstars is the price....it takes alot of money and time to make a great record, so from now on we may see some good records, but not many GREAT ones did we really think there would be no price to pay for tearing down the music industry by everyone stealing their music ? the lack of new superstars is the price….it takes alot of money and time to make a great record, so from now on we may see some good records, but not many GREAT ones

]]> By: brian http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127133 brian Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:13:41 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127133 Leslie, of course an artist always needs a great song, thats a constant variable, a given. But an artist with a great song and has nothing else to offer is a ONE HIT WONDER. Nothing wrong with a one hit wonder, in fact, the last decade all we see are one hit wonders. Its just ashame that an artist cant offer anymore than one great written song. The killers dress frilly and they are showmen. They come from Vegas understand that fashion and music are both important. The second record was mediocre which started there downward spiral! Leslie, of course an artist always needs a great song, thats a constant variable, a given. But an artist with a great song and has nothing else to offer is a ONE HIT WONDER. Nothing wrong with a one hit wonder, in fact, the last decade all we see are one hit wonders. Its just ashame that an artist cant offer anymore than one great written song.

The killers dress frilly and they are showmen. They come from Vegas understand that fashion and music are both important. The second record was mediocre which started there downward spiral!

]]> By: Leslie Bennett http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127124 Leslie Bennett Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:50:04 +0000 http://www.kingsofar.com/2008/03/27/raging-against-the-machine-amazon-2-digital-retailer-clear-channel-drama-and-where-are-the-superstars/#comment-127124 Musicians today think it is cool to dress down rather than frilly. I remember when The Killers tried to dress all frilly, that didn't last long. They are great no matter how they dress. The last time I checked some pair of jeans can cost over $200-$400. People in the know can tell. If throwing a long scarf around your neck does it for you then fine, it still doesn't have anything to do with a great song or performance. ie..Glen Hansard at the awards. Musicians today think it is cool to dress down rather than frilly. I remember when The Killers tried to dress all frilly, that didn’t last long. They are great no matter how they dress. The last time I checked some pair of jeans can cost over $200-$400. People in the know can tell. If throwing a long scarf around your neck does it for you then fine, it still doesn’t have anything to do with a great song or performance. ie..Glen Hansard at the awards.

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