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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll chime in on Ponderosa - "Hold on You" and "tellin' lies" are the standout cuts for me. Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll chime in on Ponderosa - &#8220;Hold on You&#8221; and &#8220;tellin&#8217; lies&#8221; are the standout cuts for me. Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: full devil jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>full devil jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Nickleback generic? Cause they sold millions of records? Come on dude have you ever seen them live? They rock out man!!!! Great musicians and songwriters. The band Ponderosa...lol  give me a break....thats a good one!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Nickleback generic? Cause they sold millions of records? Come on dude have you ever seen them live? They rock out man!!!! Great musicians and songwriters. The band Ponderosa&#8230;lol  give me a break&#8230;.thats a good one!!!  <img src='http://www.kingsofar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: A2daC</title>
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		<dc:creator>A2daC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks KOAR for directing me to Ponderosa. Moonlight Revival and Devil On Your Shoulder are straight-up hard rocking bangers. They are danceable too A+! I will get into the other songs and I am sure live it all makes up a magical experience.

Much better than any band that has been recommended on here for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks KOAR for directing me to Ponderosa. Moonlight Revival and Devil On Your Shoulder are straight-up hard rocking bangers. They are danceable too A+! I will get into the other songs and I am sure live it all makes up a magical experience.</p>
<p>Much better than any band that has been recommended on here for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was making general statements, dino. I'm not raking on you because you aren't into my band, I made sure to list plenty of other artists to make that clear.

But since you brought it up, I'll take it as a compliment that you dug so deep for "suggestions" for my band.

I quite like our imagery. The Grateful Dead's logos were a skull with a lightning bolt &#38; a dancing bear. I wouldn't call them influences, though. The skull &#38; the rose, just like the lightning bolt, are recurring symbols throughout the history of rock &#38; roll. So is the pierced heart, Tom Petty's famed logo. I think we've struck a balance of communicating who we are without blatantly ripping anyone off. We're kind of dark, kind of psychedelic, but also a little bit tender... we'd still like to take you out for a night on the town. At least that's the idea behind the imagery. Perhaps eventually we'll stumble upon something as iconic as the Rolling Stones' lips logo, but only time will tell if we're so fortunate. Right now we're more focused on writing great songs ;)

Out of curiosity, what's 10 Years' grand creative logo? Was there any thought behind choosing Selfish for the logo type? (I have a lot of thoughts about that particular font, but I'll keep them to myself.) Or what's so creative about that hummingbird photo? Or what exactly does the girl in the brush communicate? I'm like a sponge here, Dino, douse me with your wisdom. It's the only way I'll ever learn.

As for the tempo of our songs... I'm not sure I get what you're saying. I mean... isn't Yesterday kind of slow? And just because it's "difficult" to write an uptempo song, does that make it any better? If that's the case, wouldn't Sean Lane's career have taken off? Dreams is downtempo &#38; just two chords &#38; I still hear it on the radio on a regular basis. And Rumours is 19x platinum in the US alone. I dunno what "biggest classic producers/songwriters" you're talking about. Honestly, that kind of sounds like bullshit to me. The ones on our myspace aren't our quickest tunes, but I just think that kind of thinking is sort of ridiculous.

Perhaps we're just two entirely different schools of thought, which is what confused me by your initial post. Your commentary on Ponderosa kind of reaffirms it.

But if you're interested in more songs, my favorite is &lt;a href="http://ponderosamusic.net/koar/Little%20Runaway.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;. It's kind of midtempo, though. Actually less than midtempo. And there aren't a whole lot of chords. Whoops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was making general statements, dino. I&#8217;m not raking on you because you aren&#8217;t into my band, I made sure to list plenty of other artists to make that clear.</p>
<p>But since you brought it up, I&#8217;ll take it as a compliment that you dug so deep for &#8220;suggestions&#8221; for my band.</p>
<p>I quite like our imagery. The Grateful Dead&#8217;s logos were a skull with a lightning bolt &amp; a dancing bear. I wouldn&#8217;t call them influences, though. The skull &amp; the rose, just like the lightning bolt, are recurring symbols throughout the history of rock &amp; roll. So is the pierced heart, Tom Petty&#8217;s famed logo. I think we&#8217;ve struck a balance of communicating who we are without blatantly ripping anyone off. We&#8217;re kind of dark, kind of psychedelic, but also a little bit tender&#8230; we&#8217;d still like to take you out for a night on the town. At least that&#8217;s the idea behind the imagery. Perhaps eventually we&#8217;ll stumble upon something as iconic as the Rolling Stones&#8217; lips logo, but only time will tell if we&#8217;re so fortunate. Right now we&#8217;re more focused on writing great songs <img src='http://www.kingsofar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what&#8217;s 10 Years&#8217; grand creative logo? Was there any thought behind choosing Selfish for the logo type? (I have a lot of thoughts about that particular font, but I&#8217;ll keep them to myself.) Or what&#8217;s so creative about that hummingbird photo? Or what exactly does the girl in the brush communicate? I&#8217;m like a sponge here, Dino, douse me with your wisdom. It&#8217;s the only way I&#8217;ll ever learn.</p>
<p>As for the tempo of our songs&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure I get what you&#8217;re saying. I mean&#8230; isn&#8217;t Yesterday kind of slow? And just because it&#8217;s &#8220;difficult&#8221; to write an uptempo song, does that make it any better? If that&#8217;s the case, wouldn&#8217;t Sean Lane&#8217;s career have taken off? Dreams is downtempo &amp; just two chords &amp; I still hear it on the radio on a regular basis. And Rumours is 19x platinum in the US alone. I dunno what &#8220;biggest classic producers/songwriters&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about. Honestly, that kind of sounds like bullshit to me. The ones on our myspace aren&#8217;t our quickest tunes, but I just think that kind of thinking is sort of ridiculous.</p>
<p>Perhaps we&#8217;re just two entirely different schools of thought, which is what confused me by your initial post. Your commentary on Ponderosa kind of reaffirms it.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re interested in more songs, my favorite is <a href="http://ponderosamusic.net/koar/Little%20Runaway.mp3" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. It&#8217;s kind of midtempo, though. Actually less than midtempo. And there aren&#8217;t a whole lot of chords. Whoops!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that-- which is why I carefully chose to use the word bands instead of artists. I just hope the industry (including the bands) realize that reinforceing those fears is really biting the hand that feeds us all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that&#8211; which is why I carefully chose to use the word bands instead of artists. I just hope the industry (including the bands) realize that reinforceing those fears is really biting the hand that feeds us all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We both agree CHANGE is needed. 

"Artists start being real and quit pandering to what labels are looking for—- labels quit looking for a quick buck and rewarding shitty artists."

well said....

"Unfortunately the majority of bands I have played alongside are always treading the line. They are afraid to play what they want because its not what the labels want to hear. So they just copy something else thats being done… How can you have anything genuine come from any community when that train of thought is so prevelant? Im not surprised at the lack of good material under those circumstances. Are you?"

very true true true...artists are afraid to be themselves and yes they want to copy. But you will eventually realize they are not real artists, painters, or poets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We both agree CHANGE is needed. </p>
<p>&#8220;Artists start being real and quit pandering to what labels are looking for—- labels quit looking for a quick buck and rewarding shitty artists.&#8221;</p>
<p>well said&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately the majority of bands I have played alongside are always treading the line. They are afraid to play what they want because its not what the labels want to hear. So they just copy something else thats being done… How can you have anything genuine come from any community when that train of thought is so prevelant? Im not surprised at the lack of good material under those circumstances. Are you?&#8221;</p>
<p>very true true true&#8230;artists are afraid to be themselves and yes they want to copy. But you will eventually realize they are not real artists, painters, or poets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually you can.  Radio and the industry people who were involved in getting songs like "yesterday" out into the public eye are hardly the same now as they were then.  Radio is still the best tool- but they have to pick better substance. Labels need to quit going for the quick buck. Develope.  

Im not saying that the artists now have no part in the problem.  I am saying that unless there is a huge change in the music industry climate nothing will change.  Artists start being real and quit pandering to what labels are looking for---- labels quit looking for a quick buck and rewarding shitty artists.  

Unfortunately the  majority of bands I have played alongside are always treading the line. They are afraid to play what they want because its not what the labels want to hear. So they just copy something else thats being done... How can you have anything genuine come from any community when that train of thought is so prevelant? Im not surprised at the lack of good material under those circumstances.  Are you?

There are none so Deaf as those who will not Hear....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you can.  Radio and the industry people who were involved in getting songs like &#8220;yesterday&#8221; out into the public eye are hardly the same now as they were then.  Radio is still the best tool- but they have to pick better substance. Labels need to quit going for the quick buck. Develope.  </p>
<p>Im not saying that the artists now have no part in the problem.  I am saying that unless there is a huge change in the music industry climate nothing will change.  Artists start being real and quit pandering to what labels are looking for&#8212;- labels quit looking for a quick buck and rewarding shitty artists.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately the  majority of bands I have played alongside are always treading the line. They are afraid to play what they want because its not what the labels want to hear. So they just copy something else thats being done&#8230; How can you have anything genuine come from any community when that train of thought is so prevelant? Im not surprised at the lack of good material under those circumstances.  Are you?</p>
<p>There are none so Deaf as those who will not Hear&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: koar</title>
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		<dc:creator>koar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan - it isn't the radio's fault. You cant blame radio for 'Ay ya ya ya ya' - and you cant credit radio for Yesterday. Todays artists just arent as compelling. Heck, artists cant even come up with an original logo! Again, I'm not going to get into why we have a troubling landscape of artists...

Its easy to say 'Dude, there are tons of great artists out there'...everyone says that, that's cliche as Obama's 'Change We can Believe In Speeches'..

I can't believe in speeches, I believe in results..

If you think there are artists that can make radio appealing again -- actually, hell with radio, artists that can make people interested again..then you have the email..

tips@kingsofar.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan - it isn&#8217;t the radio&#8217;s fault. You cant blame radio for &#8216;Ay ya ya ya ya&#8217; - and you cant credit radio for Yesterday. Todays artists just arent as compelling. Heck, artists cant even come up with an original logo! Again, I&#8217;m not going to get into why we have a troubling landscape of artists&#8230;</p>
<p>Its easy to say &#8216;Dude, there are tons of great artists out there&#8217;&#8230;everyone says that, that&#8217;s cliche as Obama&#8217;s &#8216;Change We can Believe In Speeches&#8217;..</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe in speeches, I believe in results..</p>
<p>If you think there are artists that can make radio appealing again &#8212; actually, hell with radio, artists that can make people interested again..then you have the email..</p>
<p><a href="mailto:tips@kingsofar.com">tips@kingsofar.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If it wasn’t for bands like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry..."  If it wasnt for bands like that the radio would still have some credibility. Instead they have entire generations of consumers tuning out.  Do those bands-- selling those kinds of numbers out weight the amount of alienation they bring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it wasn’t for bands like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry&#8230;&#8221;  If it wasnt for bands like that the radio would still have some credibility. Instead they have entire generations of consumers tuning out.  Do those bands&#8211; selling those kinds of numbers out weight the amount of alienation they bring?</p>
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		<title>By: koar</title>
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		<dc:creator>koar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - 

There is a disconnect in your thinking. Meaning, you just don't get it. I'm not going to have a highschool conversation of "my genre is better than your genre of music". 

Let's separate the bull from the FACTS. If it wasn't for bands like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry, your little hipster boy bands wouldn't have enough money to make a record for the few fans they have. 

Jon - somethings are beyond opinion which are closer to truth. 

Here are some solid recommendations for your band 

http://www.myspace.com/ponderosamusic

1) Change your logo, your logo as it is now is a skull biting a rose which is Grateful Dead rip off...Get creative..You many be influenced by stoner rock but it doesn't give you the right to blatantly rip off artists -- including the logo..Shame on you Jon, Shame on you. I suggest living under you're own principles. 

2) All your songs are midtempo, actually less than midtempo - could put people asleep in about 5 seconds. The biggest classic producers/songwriters will all say that slow one chorder songs are easy to write -- and uptempo songs are more difficult...the truth is, your songs take less effort than actually a really good uptempo rock song. C'mon, now, let's put more thought into the music..

3) Midnight Revival and The Devil On My Shoulder are  close to being uptempo, but i'm not connecting it. The vocals need help in this song, trying to hard..Get rid of the awful lo-fi fuzz..

As of now, If I want to listen to great songs from the 70's, i will throw in Tom Petty. Bands today cannot re-create the hit songs of the 70's and your band is no exception..Regardless Jon - we all love you over here at KOAR..

If you have any new music that we feel should be worth listening too..we are all ears..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John - </p>
<p>There is a disconnect in your thinking. Meaning, you just don&#8217;t get it. I&#8217;m not going to have a highschool conversation of &#8220;my genre is better than your genre of music&#8221;. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s separate the bull from the FACTS. If it wasn&#8217;t for bands like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry, your little hipster boy bands wouldn&#8217;t have enough money to make a record for the few fans they have. </p>
<p>Jon - somethings are beyond opinion which are closer to truth. </p>
<p>Here are some solid recommendations for your band </p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/ponderosamusic" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/ponderosamusic</a></p>
<p>1) Change your logo, your logo as it is now is a skull biting a rose which is Grateful Dead rip off&#8230;Get creative..You many be influenced by stoner rock but it doesn&#8217;t give you the right to blatantly rip off artists &#8212; including the logo..Shame on you Jon, Shame on you. I suggest living under you&#8217;re own principles. </p>
<p>2) All your songs are midtempo, actually less than midtempo - could put people asleep in about 5 seconds. The biggest classic producers/songwriters will all say that slow one chorder songs are easy to write &#8212; and uptempo songs are more difficult&#8230;the truth is, your songs take less effort than actually a really good uptempo rock song. C&#8217;mon, now, let&#8217;s put more thought into the music..</p>
<p>3) Midnight Revival and The Devil On My Shoulder are  close to being uptempo, but i&#8217;m not connecting it. The vocals need help in this song, trying to hard..Get rid of the awful lo-fi fuzz..</p>
<p>As of now, If I want to listen to great songs from the 70&#8217;s, i will throw in Tom Petty. Bands today cannot re-create the hit songs of the 70&#8217;s and your band is no exception..Regardless Jon - we all love you over here at KOAR..</p>
<p>If you have any new music that we feel should be worth listening too..we are all ears..</p>
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